Comments on: Top 3 Reasons To Pirate Photoshop http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/ About The Arts Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:05:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ash http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-65745 Ash Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:31:51 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-65745 Theo just basically worded my opinion. Theo just basically worded my opinion.

]]> By: BTC http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-64477 BTC Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:20:38 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-64477 You know, I am so sick of major corporations re-writing our laws to suit their needs. I am even more sick of them imposing their skewed vision of morality upon us. Anyone who has attended college is guilty of the corporate definition of "pirating." We have all taken books or articles written by other people, used them in our own papers (sometimes even directly quoted them), advanced from these materials, and the author had no capital gain. For his time, we stick his name in our citations. This is perfectly acceptable. If I were to pirate software and then attempt to sell copied versions to others, I would be in the wrong. But pirating for personal use is just some corporate invention designed to keep the coffers full and to prevent others from benefiting from intellectual property without forking over the cash. You know, I am so sick of major corporations re-writing our laws to suit their needs. I am even more sick of them imposing their skewed vision of morality upon us. Anyone who has attended college is guilty of the corporate definition of “pirating.” We have all taken books or articles written by other people, used them in our own papers (sometimes even directly quoted them), advanced from these materials, and the author had no capital gain. For his time, we stick his name in our citations. This is perfectly acceptable. If I were to pirate software and then attempt to sell copied versions to others, I would be in the wrong. But pirating for personal use is just some corporate invention designed to keep the coffers full and to prevent others from benefiting from intellectual property without forking over the cash.

]]> By: Meh http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-57851 Meh Fri, 21 Oct 2011 03:11:33 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-57851 Why the fuck not pirate? Why the fuck not pirate?

]]> By: CosmicCat http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-50702 CosmicCat Thu, 30 Jun 2011 18:47:08 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-50702 To sum up the arguments for piracy thus far: 1. I deserve the software (I don't have extra money, I am a student, I just like to tinker with fancy things cry cry cry) 2. The company doesn't deserve my money (entities that turn profits must be taking advantage of someone: equal and opposite reactions right? oh wait, that's physics! not business!...contrary to popular belief, it is possible for both parties in a sales transaction to benefit, and just because a company is 'big' does not mean that it is inherently evil) How about this twist? I have already paid for the software because I pay taxes! In turn, the local middle/high school shells out state funds (they have to spend all that they can to appear needy so that they don't suffer budget cuts) to Adobe so that their software can indoctrinate students. All part of their strategy to corner the market by influencing next generation preferences. Collectively, we the masses have already made possible the furthering of Adobe's bottom line! Why shouldn't we enjoy a little slice of the software market we've helped them corner? To sum up the arguments for piracy thus far:

1. I deserve the software
(I don’t have extra money, I am a student, I just like to tinker with fancy things cry cry cry)

2. The company doesn’t deserve my money
(entities that turn profits must be taking advantage of someone: equal and opposite reactions right? oh wait, that’s physics! not business!…contrary to popular belief, it is possible for both parties in a sales transaction to benefit, and just because a company is ‘big’ does not mean that it is inherently evil)

How about this twist? I have already paid for the software because I pay taxes! In turn, the local middle/high school shells out state funds (they have to spend all that they can to appear needy so that they don’t suffer budget cuts) to Adobe so that their software can indoctrinate students. All part of their strategy to corner the market by influencing next generation preferences. Collectively, we the masses have already made possible the furthering of Adobe’s bottom line! Why shouldn’t we enjoy a little slice of the software market we’ve helped them corner?

]]> By: Plorpus http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-39309 Plorpus Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:22:52 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-39309 NOTE- this is a question about pirating. even if you justify yourself by not being able to pay for the product because of the market, that does not change the moral value of it being wrong. however, if you have a moral reason, and do NOT use it commercially, for home purposes only, but you CAN pay for it (not having the money, but having the money and it not making a dent in your money) then that STILL doesnt make it right. if you can justify financially AND morally, then i think your alright. but of course, if by any chance adobe DOES come to your house, they wont think so... look at this. "Hello know i know everything about limewire well ....... the fact this girl got fined £10000 for downloading of limewire and other p2p programs she had about 2 - 3 p2p programs INCLUDING LIMEWIRE and was fined for illegal downloading " thats tru, it was in the news. BUT theres also this. "I'm going to post a blog on this myself, because as Tamara said, it might help to spread the news. I didn't read all of the comments (the first half I did) but here is a simple explanation on the laws and legal use of limewire. 1. Limewire is legal, fun, and COULD be safe (if not for viruses). 2. Downloading files from limewire such as music that you created, produced, and paid for yourself is fine. You can even allow others to download it. If a band, such as Hillsong, wanted to allow people to download their songs for free, thy could even use limewire to do so. It would not be illegal. Or, if I want to be able to share my report on ethics in Christianity with my friends, I can put it on limewire for them (and others) to download legally. 2. You do NOT own a song just because you bought the CD it is on. You have the right to listen to the song, but not distribute it. Other companies (like radios stations) have the right to boadcast the song, but they cannot sell it. And stores have the right to sell the song, but not necessarily broadcast it in their stores for everyone to listen. For the radio stations and stores, they must pay royalties to the actual owners of the songs so that they can continue playing the songs. Otherwise, it is illegal. It is even illegal to play, sing, or do something with a song written by someone else in a concert or in like a church if you are not paying royalties for the act. Yes, though it is rare, Christian Musicians can come and sue a church if they play a song in their church during worship without having a license to do so. There you have it...another answer from anotherguy" i think, therefore, that this dispute of copy rights will never end... EVER! and that people will choose sides of the battle to be on. NOTE-
this is a question about pirating. even if you justify yourself by not being able to pay for the product because of the market, that does not change the moral value of it being wrong. however, if you have a moral reason, and do NOT use it commercially, for home purposes only, but you CAN pay for it (not having the money, but having the money and it not making a dent in your money) then that STILL doesnt make it right. if you can justify financially AND morally, then i think your alright. but of course, if by any chance adobe DOES come to your house, they wont think so…

look at this.

“Hello know i know everything about limewire well ……. the fact this girl got fined £10000 for downloading of limewire and other p2p programs she had about 2 – 3 p2p programs INCLUDING LIMEWIRE and was fined for illegal downloading ”

thats tru, it was in the news. BUT theres also this.

“I’m going to post a blog on this myself, because as Tamara said, it might help to spread the news. I didn’t read all of the comments (the first half I did) but here is a simple explanation on the laws and legal use of limewire.

1. Limewire is legal, fun, and COULD be safe (if not for viruses).

2. Downloading files from limewire such as music that you created, produced, and paid for yourself is fine. You can even allow others to download it. If a band, such as Hillsong, wanted to allow people to download their songs for free, thy could even use limewire to do so. It would not be illegal. Or, if I want to be able to share my report on ethics in Christianity with my friends, I can put it on limewire for them (and others) to download legally.

2. You do NOT own a song just because you bought the CD it is on. You have the right to listen to the song, but not distribute it. Other companies (like radios stations) have the right to boadcast the song, but they cannot sell it. And stores have the right to sell the song, but not necessarily broadcast it in their stores for everyone to listen. For the radio stations and stores, they must pay royalties to the actual owners of the songs so that they can continue playing the songs. Otherwise, it is illegal.

It is even illegal to play, sing, or do something with a song written by someone else in a concert or in like a church if you are not paying royalties for the act. Yes, though it is rare, Christian Musicians can come and sue a church if they play a song in their church during worship without having a license to do so.

There you have it…another answer from anotherguy”

i think, therefore, that this dispute of copy rights will never end… EVER!

and that people will choose sides of the battle to be on.

]]> By: Theo http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-35300 Theo Thu, 03 Jun 2010 06:39:07 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-35300 Just adding my two bits, I'm currently studying graphic design and use an illegal copy of CS4 suit as do most of my classmates. In my opinion this is not a major problem for adobe because their money isn't being made from students and hobbyists. Where it actually helps adobe is that we become familiar and reliant on the software while we're students, ecouraging us to to purchase legal copies when we are working in the industry. Just adding my two bits, I’m currently studying graphic design and use an illegal copy of CS4 suit as do most of my classmates. In my opinion this is not a major problem for adobe because their money isn’t being made from students and hobbyists. Where it actually helps adobe is that we become familiar and reliant on the software while we’re students, ecouraging us to to purchase legal copies when we are working in the industry.

]]> By: Gagytman http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-34694 Gagytman Mon, 03 May 2010 07:03:38 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-34694 Why pirate software, for the same reason you buy generic drugs. There is a lot in common with the big software companys and big pharma. They both say there cost are for R&D. That's a bold faced lie! From version 6.0 to version 7.0 execpt for a bell and a whistle and maby upgrade the interface a little,but honestly no real changes. They get Indian software devlopers for what maby $5 an hour? We all know that the obese prises go's strait to the pockets of the executives. Its the same exuse as big pharma who also claims that R&D justify chargeing $500 a pill for a cancer fighting drug, when we all know only pennys on the doller go to research. Apx. 95% of that money pads the wallets of there over paid executive waste and lobbyists. Why pirate software, for the same reason you buy generic drugs.

There is a lot in common with the big software companys and big pharma.

They both say there cost are for R&D.
That’s a bold faced lie!
From version 6.0 to version 7.0 execpt for a bell and a whistle and maby upgrade the interface a little,but honestly no real changes. They get Indian software devlopers for what maby $5 an hour?

We all know that the obese prises go’s strait to the pockets of the executives.

Its the same exuse as big pharma who also claims that R&D justify chargeing $500 a pill for a cancer fighting drug, when we all know only pennys on the doller go to research. Apx. 95% of that money pads the wallets of there over paid executive waste and lobbyists.

]]> By: Viktor http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-32423 Viktor Sun, 14 Feb 2010 04:46:05 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-32423 Hey, Adobe WANTS their software to be pirated! Well, not really, but at least they don't bother making it harder to copy. In theory, they could make it impossible to pirate, but no... The truth is that piracy is what made them what they are today. Photoshop would not be what it is today if it wasn't for piracy. I do think though, that companies and corporations oughta pay for it :) Hey, Adobe WANTS their software to be pirated! Well, not really, but at least they don’t bother making it harder to copy. In theory, they could make it impossible to pirate, but no…
The truth is that piracy is what made them what they are today. Photoshop would not be what it is today if it wasn’t for piracy.
I do think though, that companies and corporations oughta pay for it :)

]]> By: Vyoma http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-26983 Vyoma Thu, 13 Aug 2009 08:09:24 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-26983 Well, <strong>Nulflux</strong>. I am not able to watch that video: <blockquote>Sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed from within the United States </blockquote> Well, Nulflux. I am not able to watch that video:
Sorry, currently our video library can only be streamed from within the United States

]]> By: Nulflux http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/comment-page-1/#comment-26976 Nulflux Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:40:42 +0000 http://kalaalog.com/2007/07/19/top-3-reasons-to-priate-photoshop/#comment-26976 I was fortunate enough to find a newly released documentary that explains this entire situation much better than any comments posted here. Vyoma, I urge you to view the video and then post back your thoughts. I understand that this video relates to the media industry and not software specifically - but the concepts that are conveyed could similarly apply. Video Link: (Hulu) RiP! A Remix Manifesto 2009 | Not Rated http://www.hulu.com/watch/88782/rip-a-remix-manifesto?c=News-and-Information I was fortunate enough to find a newly released documentary that explains this entire situation much better than any comments posted here. Vyoma, I urge you to view the video and then post back your thoughts. I understand that this video relates to the media industry and not software specifically – but the concepts that are conveyed could similarly apply.

Video Link: (Hulu) RiP! A Remix Manifesto 2009 | Not Rated
http://www.hulu.com/watch/88782/rip-a-remix-manifesto?c=News-and-Information

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